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What's the difference between a
'68 LeMans and a GTO?
The best way to verify the authenticity of your GTO is to send the VIN
from your car to Pontiac Historic Services. By supplying P.H.S. with the
VIN of your car, along with the other information listed on their web "Order"
page, you will receive the most complete historical background and VIN
information ever offered by any automobile nameplate. The information packet
from PHS will include the following: A copy of the factory invoice or billing
history, A letter decoding the options (when necessary), A copy of a dealer
order form for that year, An official photo for that year Pontiac, if available,
Other specific information for that year and model Pontiac, if available.
Contact P.H.S. on the Internet at http://www.phs-online.com
GTO has no row of holes in the rear quarter panels. Stick your head inside
the trunk. You should see no bondoed holes where the "LeMans" letters used
to be attached through the rear quarter panels ahead of the arrowhead marker
See the red lenses in the brake lights. LeMans
had a different design. In each light there were three squares side by
side. GTO has two long horizontal rectangles.
See the trunk lid. LeMans had individual chrome letters under the keyhole
spelling out "PONTIAC". There should be no holes for these letters visible.
Instead, the GTO has only two holes for the "GTO" emblem in the lower right
corner of the trunk lid.
If the front bumper is chrome, it MAY be a LeMans. Some GTO's were ordered
with chrome bumpers instead of the Endura nose.
If the front grille says "PONTIAC" on the driver's side,
just bought a LeMans. Paul Zazarine's book called "GTO Recognition Guide"
shows a photo and description of an Endura Delete (chrome bumper) GTO.
The grille emblem says "GTO". Here is a picture of an Endura Delete car
that was emailed to me.
This car had the "GTO" emblem on it. I am personally not sure, but I
think the hole spacing for the two different emblems may be different as
well. My old "PONTIAC" grille emblem from my '68 LeMans measures exactly
7 7/8" between the post hole centers. Although, two people have written
to me whose GTO VIN numbers checked out to be GTOs, but their chrome bumper
had a "PONTIAC" emblem in the grille. Both cars are so far undocumented
unsolved mysteries. If your chrome bumpered GTO has the incorrect "PONTIAC"
emblem on the grille, email me your VIN and data plate codes. Maybe we
can figure out if particular factories were mis-applying the emblem. In
response, Paul Dorton (email@example.com) says: "There were
no absolutes when it comes to the cars of the 60s and 70s. I worked in
Pontiac dealers starting in 1968 through 1980. I was a mechanic and a service
writer before moving over to the Parts department. There wasn't the same
rigidness and quality control on the assembly lines as we have today. Take
the nameplate in the grill. The correct answer is that the car could come
either way. It really did depend on the guy on the assembly line and what
parts were available. A copper colored '68 GTO had LeMans grilles and a
PONTIAC name plate in the grill. I remember it very distincly. What happened
is that there was a LeMans bumper assembly installed on this particular
GTO."Paul also adds: "I also wanted to let you know something about
the '68 Endura Delete option on GTOs. Sometimes it was not an option. I
distinctly remember seeing a copper colored '68 GTO with the chrome bumper
that came that way because there were certain special order colors available
that they couldn't make stick to the rubber bumper. In '68, body shops
hated GTOs because of the problems with painting the bumper and making
it stick. For the first year or so you had to buy the paint from a Pontiac
dealer because none of the paint stores had it. The paint came in quart
cans. Anyway, if you knew the right people, any color could be had and
if the color wasn't one of the ones listed in the catalog, you got a chrome
Does the car have a 350 in it? That's too small to be a GTO engine.
Look for GTO emblems in the interior on the door panels.
Read the V.I.N. plate through the windshield on top of the dashboard. According
to DANDBS@concentric.net... The number starts with "2" for Pontiac,
then "42" meaning GTO, then a "67" if it was a convertible, and an "8"
A guy named Bob wrote:
GM Canada offers the same services as PHS - they can document a car
that was BUILT in Canada, or SOLD in Canada. When you think
of all the people living along the northern border in the States, their
odds of buying a Canadian car are relatively high...plus there are all
of us crazy Canadians visiting your site. Here's the URL for GM Canada's
"Vintage Vehicle Services":
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